So tonight, as I am sure many of you have heard, Sean Hannity is going to blow open the file on Barack Obama's political, religious, and radical ties. Apparently he has some pretty serious stuff that most people are unaware of. Now then, I ask all of you, will it make a difference? For the Obama supporters, if you find out some disturbing ties or other information about Obama, will you change you vote? What is the likely, affect on Obama's campaign? Please feel free to comment, I want to hear your thoughts on this!
I find it incredibly difficult to believe that Hannity has some dirt on Obama that no one else--including Hillary Clinton--was ever able to uncover. More likely, Hannity will address known information about Obma but will lie/skew/misrepresent/distort the facts in order to make old news look like a colossal revelation.
I dont know, if its bad enough even hillary would have stayed away from it- you don't want to expose a massive scandal in your own party just to attempt to clinch a nomination. although I wouldn't necessarily put it past her.
certain things have to be off limits during the primary battle.
I am Jeremiah Johnson and I believe with all my heart that Sean Hannity will one day become awake and renounce his corrupt and misguided ways.
It will not affect the mass of lemmings. They have been brainwashed and already cast their lot. Very few people are willing to admit they made a mistake. So instead, they will rationalize everything and marginalize it so it doesn't mean anything. Never in our history have we had such a radicaly flawed candidate as Obama running for president. The media has failed the american people in an epic way. Aside from a small handful of people, the media has put more effort into discrediting Palin in a week then looking objectively at all the connections this manchurian candidate has in the last year and a half.
This election is being engineered by the media. It is being stolen by ACORN and voter fraud. Its being manipulated by the democratic leaders by displacing blame for current problems when they are more culpable then Evil Bush. Thats like Hamas condeming Al qieda for terrorist activities. Its completely absurd. But in for a penny, in for a pound. Those supporting this Obama/democratic movement will turn a blind eye, because its easier to make exscuses then admit they were wrong in their judegement.
I did look into it the best I could.. so did the newspapers, so did cnn and most importantly so did hillary with all her and her husbands connectiosn to the fbi.. she had over hundred million at her disposale but I'm supposed to belive a super partisan like sean hanity uncovered the truth? woudl you believe it if say al frankin uncovered the truth about bush?
Sorry everyone and hillary couldnt find crap.. there is nothign here.. and why now hanity?? is it more of this "turn the page on the economy" republicain BS.. hmmm sure smellls like it. Freaken offensive.. but hey go ahead and dig your own grave while peopel are losing homes and youa re calling obama an arab.. go for it.
Hannity's source for his "news" about Obama is a man with PARANOID SCHIZOPHRENIA!! The guy was run-out of the REPUBLICAN party in Florida for being insane and believing that the U.S. Government was in league with a Jewish conspiracy bent on destroying him... he is mentally ill, files bogus lawsuits in Federal Court all over the country and is in completetly unable to keep his own delusions in check, let alone actually dig-up dirt that right-wingers who are SANE and relatively intelligent were unable to find. If he DID find something, I would admit it. As someone who has worked on efforts to reform government on a variety of issues, I am well aware that no administration has been perfect. When a Democrat does something I do not agree with, I say so... just like I do with Republicans.
JB and AS,
If it is found that "that one" is a radical socialist and had ties beyond "just someone I know in the neighborhood" will it make any difference to you? Or would you be happy with a card carrying socialist and terrorist sympathizer?
“We can’t expect the American people to jump from Capitalism to Communism, but we can assist their elected leaders in giving them small doses of Socialism, until they awaken one day to find that they have Communism.”
--Nikita Khrushchev on Roosevelt's "new deal"
Darkest Donnie: If you knew that McCain was involved directly for a period of years with Neo-Nazi organization would you support him?
And just so you know, FDR SAVED Capitalism from a powder keg... global depression, global spread of both communism and fascism. The New Deal programs have allowed the U.S.A. to outlast the U.S.S.R. without ever having to face a real uprising in this country despite 25% unemployment and everything else in the Depression. Say: "Thank you FDR, for saving us from the extremes of communism and unregulated markets, and giving us the way to enjoy the BEST parts of a pure market economy and the few parts of socialism that soften the rough edges."
Andrew, your on crack. The New deal kept us in a depression 10 years longer then other countries who didn't go down that road.
LOL @ Getoutandstayout
1/3 of the rest of the world before WWII tooled up for War and as every God-Fearing, Military-Industrial-Complex and special interests lobbying Capitalist knows, tooling up for War is the most effective way to build up an economy really, really really fast.
I am Jeremiah Johnson and I remember it also helps when some of those that tooled up for war also killed tens of thousands of people and raped and pillaged those countries wealth and treasuries and invested nearly all of it in Swiss Banks.
To much is being made of race, gender and religion in this election cycle by the media. I often listen to the pundits who all earn exhorbitant sums of money by telling us what we think, how we feel, even what we believe or who we trust. But I realized a long time ago that the pundits don't live in the same world as ordinary Americans. These people earn enough money and receive really valuable perks as a by product of their professions. Their lives are so far removed from a sanitation worker or taxi driver or a factory worker that it is ludicrous for them to be the opinion shapers of poor and middle class people.
Hey JJ you should go live with your buddy Huego like the rest of the wacked out hollywood trash. If you really hate your country so much, why bother being here? You and the rest of the nut jobs that think America is evil should spend a year in a real socialist/marxist country. Then when you get back, you'll be smarter. I'm sick of seeing such loathing from Americans of their own country. America's greatest generation were those that persevered through those great wars. How dare you spew such vile hatred towards them. You talk about 1/3, you will never be 1/3 the man that the average WWI and WWII American was. I'm a gen Xer and my hat goes off to that Generation. They were the greatest generation our country has ever seen.
Nothing in my post is related to anything here in your response which is seriously in violation of the CoH here at NewsVine and is being reported as hate-baiting.
GETOUTandSTAYOUT: I did NOT say ANY of the VILE things that you claim I did. The thread is not related to your comment either. I am not on crack, and I did not attack the WWII generation or anyone else. I have no idea what you are even trying to get across by making attacks about fractional manhood. If you are hoping that the readers will just take you word for it that you were attacked, and that the WWII generation of American was the subject of "vile hatred" from me or another 'viner who does not share you r views, you are greatly mistaken. We come here for news and discussion -- not random name calling without any basis in fact.
Is your name JJ? No? Then I wasn't talking to you, was I.
When someone comes on and starts accusing my country of rape & pillage in order to help our country get out of the depression, I take offense to it. And it sickens me that any citizen of my country would even say such a thing, especially about a generation that gave more to this country then any other since.
Andrew, the only thing I said to you was that your wrong about Hoover & FDR and the new deal. Yes I said your on crack, but that was in a slang terminology infering that you didn't know what you were talking about. Most experts will agree that the NEW DEAL was a disaster and kept us in the depression 10 years longer then other countries.
Is it really that difficult to read the name to whom I'm addressing my comment?
If he comes up with something, I'll do my own fact-checking, as usual. Hannity's record, however, is dismal. His credibility as a journalist is zero, as I've found in the past when researching his claims.
He's no journalist. Just a jackass with an agenda.
Kinda like all the MSM's!
At least Fox doesn't pretend to be fair and honest!
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DARKESTDONNIE
At least Fox doesn't pretend to be fair and honest!
So then, what does their motto Fair and Balanced mean?
yeah... that was kinda ridiculous (was that meant facetiously?) Of COURSE they pretend to be "fair and balanced" in fact there is no single Fox News program that does not use the term "fair and balanced" (usually multiple times) they also refer to their "no spin zone" and many other ways to pretend they are balanced, and that the others are all being unfair against the GOP HAH!, right!
If he comes up with anything NEW, I will look into it more myself. Chances are,as someone else has pointed out, it will be Hannity rehashing the old stuff with a different spin hoping that people will fall for it.
Watch for him stretching the boundaries of believability as he stretches to make links that need the viewers to make massive leaps of convoluted thinking.
Hannity is speaking to the choir.
People who believe the stuff he says, already believe the stuff he says.
The koolaide is strong on Fox Cable News.
I wonder what they drink on MSNBC.
I wonder what they drink on MSNBC?
I like a little wine or a nice dark bold ale with my daily facts from MSNBC as oppose to kool-aid with lies and half truths from FOX the unfair and not balance network.
Good Point Blogger!
Hannity is speaking to the choir
Sean Hannity is not a journalist. He is an opinionated blowhole who happens to have his own infomercial on Fox. Nobody who looks at objective fact believes anything Hannity says. Those who believe his rhetoric would never vote for Mr Obama anyway.
Three sheets,
I'm curious, on MSNBC, can you name any anchors who are registered, open republicans? Fox News, for all it's purported "biasedness" has plenty of democrats on it's network. Alan Colmes, Greta Van Susteren, ED Hill, Shepard Smith, Mort Kondracke, Mara Laisson (I might have spelled her name wrong) and their opinions and viewpoints get equal time. The difference is, they're not far left a$$hole wackos. They're intelligent, reasonable people. But see, in order to know that you'd need to actually watch FNC. I don't see reasonable intelligence on MSNBC.
I'm curious, on MSNBC, can you name any anchors who are registered, open republicans?
Joe Scarborough
F-3,
Thanks!
1 down, @ least 5 more to go to equal FNC.
Pacific Northwest Blogger,
"Preaching to the choir"
And yes there are a lot of conservatives who watch Hannity, but by the response on this and other blogs so do a lot of wackedout socialist liberals. And Fox is the hands down winner almost every week on viewership. If NBC had its way it would close down its red headed stepchild they lose money every week.
And by the sound of it you have been swilling you own bath water.
I believe Hannity should not even call himself a journalist. I cannot believe (even from the Obama supporting media) all of this stuff that these talking heads are coming out with. What happened to the days when journalists reported the news without candidate bias? I will not be watching this....I would not give this guy the time of day, much less devote a minute of my time supporting his paranoia.
Lou Dobbs now calls himself an Advocacy Journalist
Sean Hannity could call himself a (insert term) Journalist
Lou Dobbs is full of @!$%#. He claims to be an "independent" as if he has no biases. But he's a full-fledged Conservative, and a full time bull@!$%#ter.
Hannity is not a journalist. He dropped out of college his freshman year, so he is basically a high school graduate. He has no degree in journalism. He is just a talk show host, that's it. The guy has had a hard on for Obama from the beginning of his campaign, nearly two years. He has turned up absolutely nothing on him but innuendos, that's it. His television show is a complete joke. Anyone who disagrees with him, he turns their mic off, attacks them, or goes to commercial. He is completely obsessed with Obama. After the election, he is going to need therapy to get over his obsession. He continually calls himself a Christian. He is no better than the rabid, foaming at the mouth mob that have gotten out of control at the Palin rallies. They call themselves good Christians too. Blow open the file? You mean the same old, worn out, rehashing mud he has been trying to have stick now for nearly two years?
Christian Areas: Lou Dobbs is full of @!$%#. He claims to be an "independent" as if he has no biases. But he's a full-fledged Conservative, and a full time bull@!$%#ter.
Could you be any more politically ignorant? A fiscal conservative does not a republican make. Many independents are fiscally conservative. I'm one of them. Being independent just means that you do not support one party over another. You just want the job done, and done right no matter which side of the fence they come from. Being an independent means that you put more importance in whats best for the country instead of whats best for the party. Lou Dobbs and Glenn Beck are two really good examples of people in the media who are truly independent. Anyone who would claim otherwise has not watched them for more then 10 mins. And believe it or not the old democratic party was more fiscally conservative in many ways then the current republican candidate is.
Christian Areas,
So Lou does not agree with you. Wow I would never have guessed it!
Could you be any more politically ignorant?
Could you be any more ignorant? I am not registered with any party, so save the lecture.
A fiscal conservative does not a republican make.
Did I call him a Republican? No. And if you think Lou Dobbs is simply a Fiscal Conservative, you're naive. He's Conservative on ALL issues. That much is obvious.
Many independents are fiscally conservative. I'm one of them. Being independent just means that you do not support one party over another. You just want the job done, and done right no matter which side of the fence they come from. Being an independent means that you put more importance in whats best for the country instead of whats best for the party.
You're an Independent Fiscal Conservative, and Lou Dobbs is an Independent Fiscal Conservative, thus Lou Dobbs is okay, and a selfless savior of our nation. That's just a bunch of self-aggrandizing bull@!$%#.
Lou Dobbs and Glenn Beck are two really good examples of people in the media who are truly independent.
Absolutely laughable. I could not think of two more biased voices in the media.
Anyone who would claim otherwise has not watched them for more then 10 mins.
That Kool-Aid must be tasty. Fact is, I would rather watch Fox News than Lou Dobbs. In fact, that's what I do when Lou Dobbs comes on.
And believe it or not the old democratic party was more fiscally conservative in many ways then the current republican candidate is.
And your assumption of me comes full circle.
I think you need to re-educate yourself on what an independent is by definition. Your confused. You stated that Lou was not an independent. I take it you mean he is a republican. Your implied categorization of him is more than obvious. Since by your own words and independent couldn't possibly be fiscally conservative without severe "biasm".
You just plain need to re-educate yourself. You obviously have a problem with reading. I did not state Dobbs was not an Independent. I stated that he hides behind that label. He's a Conservative, with some good Populism mixed in there. I never stated he is a Republican (I am stating this for the second time now).
Fact is, there are Moderate Independents, Liberal/Progressive Independents and Conservative Independents. You did know that, right? Being Independent does not mean you are free of bias or ideology. It's just means you do not belong to a party. That's really all it means, though for me, that means a lot.
Seriously, get a clue.
LOL,
Thank you for making my argument. I'm glad to see that you have finally come to understand that. Now all you need to do is admit it.
Wow, you're an idiot.
sean hannity is beginning to take this personal and he is about to mess up his career if you call it a career hating on obama very chance he get i believe that he go to bed at night wondering how to destroy barack obama because rev wright come on his show in 2001 and they had a big fight about black liberation theologygy and every since he found out that obama attended rev wright church hannity have tried to spray obama down every since and i can not believe that think folks don't see that. and another thing is that, that is the reason why i don't look at fox news it is to negative against brown folks it is not just obama hannity is against brown folks in general and that is something my grand kids and nobody kids should be looking at..and i guess he say if mcsame don't won't to do it then i just do it my self like always have every chance that i get.. this is shame that this man hates obama that bad. that is problem and i believe you all know what i'm saying....
Sean Hannity has a lways been a hateful person, and if you talk to the people around him he has some very real psychological issues. Suffice it to say: whether this year, or in the future, Sean Hannity will go down in history as the man who helped Jerome Corsi with his collection of filthy lies and the hateful wretches who recite them attempt to subvert the will of the voters, and decide an election not on the facts, but on a set of fictions as offensive as they are untrue.
Andrew Spagnoli,
You are close to the people around him? Yea right!
There is no doubt he is vehement in his quest for the truth, probably because he can see through the opiate that is "that one" and fears for the country. "That one" has not been forthcoming with answers about his school records and his relationships with the laundry list of nefarious people.
Sean Hannity personally sabotaged John McCain's campaign and dramatically reduced his chances of winning the election. He accomplished this when he was able to get a politically naive Sarah Palin to adopt his position and use his talking points on William Ayers. A systematic review of her stump speeches will show that the inclusion of those talking points began after her interview with Sean Hannity. Those were his talking points on William Ayers and his white flag of surrender that she began to talk about. He had been trying desperately to get his points about William Ayers into the debate for many many months all to no avail. I dont know if it was checked with and agreed to with the McCain campaign, but once he got her to do it it was like opening pandoras box as the right wing relished in what they thought was a sure fire winning issue, then it got out of control and the crazies and right wing kooks whipped into a frenzy by Palin backed up by Hannity and FOX News started talking about killing a sitting United States Senator.
Alot of kooks and kool aid these days all over the country...it is all lit up.Watch the show and if anything have a laugh....
Well, if people look at things differently than the Obama vision, you can't call it racist.
And liberation theology draws on marxism in that it blames a class or race of people causing the problem....in some marxist countries, they liquidate them, others they malign and marginalized them....usually business people, religious people, white people....
Good theology is based on the human race and guiding it to become more humane and better and inclusive...Anyway, I will watch the show....
and they are the ones blowing up the acorn thing likepoeple don't know that you have to have ID to even vote all those folks that has registered seventy, sixty times will have to have the same if they exsist if they don't they will turn it over to investigator and that is that. but what i have problem with is will that put the people at risk that did it right because i would hate to go to polls and my name don't be on the list to vote it will not do nobody no good for that to happen to me because i am going to show the hell out..( smile)
Well, I surf on TV...and Fox came out with 10 states and the pro's are saying that ACORN is committing voter fraud...Then they brought the lady on who heads ACORN and she said they are all lying.
The lady said ACORN will do its utmost to ensure votes are not fraudulent, people vote for who they want...but she said ACORN is reaching out to minorities....
I think that was 'fair and balanced'...but there sure are alot of liars out there, too!
I get information on Fox that I don't get elsewhere. I like Neil Cavuto and he is one to say not to listen to the media but to history....
Here is a show I just watched in 10 minutes on Youtube.
It is called www.obamacrimes.com. You can see it at any time and not even look at Hannity or even need a drink to endure it.
The early years..... in any ones life can be manipulated and..... every closet of eager young college student / future politician has those bones you can rattle......These closets of bones are in every politicians past and do count towards the character of the person but not exclusively, if as a young man a picture was painted of me or you it would be bleak and distasteful and contrary to a picture painted later in life.......Put it in the wash of the white house for perspective.... Obama is about change in his later life not as a radical but as a mature man with family and concern that the old politics haven't worked.McCain and Palin as I see are still doing dirty laundry......just a thought....Peace
That is a wise and humane insight.
Alot of people change from youth to later in life...l used to be alot more liberal and trusting than I am now.I have had to relearn that you really do have to look at the individual in the context of his/her life and situation...and that can be very complex, and thus time consuming.
Looking at the candidates thru their speeches and debates today / now.......uncomplicated it for me...... the more old news they throw the less I tend to listen to the one throwing it,...... I am registered republican and live as a liberal dads wisdom ...moms life-skills....Republican / liberal...dad / mom...reality / hope.....I was raised in a two party world with a strong emphasis on reality and hope. 8 yrs of reality I am tired of it all that is left is hope.....Good luck to us all....Peace
It won't matter. Obama supporters won't believe it (regardless of how accurate it might be). Anti-Obama folks will believe it (regardless of how inaccurate it might be). Both sides will accuse the other being wrong (regardless of the truth). The vast majority will never see it.
I very much doubt that Sean Hannity has anything credible to offer since he makes his living by spewing warps and lies.
What I'm very much sure of is that nothing will make me to vote for McCain/Palin ticket. Nothing. Zilch. Nada. Null. McCain and Palin will never get my vote as simple as that!
I'm Independent by the way.
- Ludmila
Nothing that Sean Hannity can say ever made me or will ever make me to do anything different in regard to anything or anyone.
Same goes for the other Fox News commentators. This said, I do watch/listen to Fox News and its commentators ... for sheer entertainment, and the more razzed they are with their commentaries, the more entertaining they get. For information, though, I rely on AP, CNN, ABC, CBS, MSNBC, NPR, BBC.
- Ludmila
I rely on AP, CNN, ABC, CBS, MSNBC, NPR, BBC.
They all hit it right down the middle do they?
DARK..., those who get their news from the AP, CNN, ABC, CBS, MSNBC, NPR, BBC are end up being by far better informed.
Fox News is a source of "information" for those who prefer to be told what to think rather than learning to do their own thinking. Fox News commentators for the most part comprise a right-wing extremist propaganda machine. They are entertaining though, I give them that.
- Ludmila
No it won't matter. Anybody that is stupid enough to believe Sean Hannity is already voting for McCain.
More garbage and innuendo from the king of it. Did anyone see he get unhinged when a Obama spokesperson was on? He clearly lost it when his "Katie Couric" tactic didnt work as well for him.
If this was coming a reputable real journalist I might be inclined to watch , but Hannity is a joke, the political version of a People magazine journalist, and thats probably an insult to the writers at People.
Hannity and Corsi and Andy Martin are liars, and Martin (who gives most of the so-called evidence in Corsi's book) is a Neo-Nazi. He has called for the "extermination of the jews." He has filed scores of frivoulous lawsuits, admittedly as a way to intentionally bog-down the Court system. He has repeatedly claimed that "survivors of the Holocaust should have been finished off" and he has testified in Federal Court recently that he is the target of a global conspiracy run by jews and the United States Government. Another example of his paranoid delusions is this quote, also from testimony in open Court: "I am able to understand how the Holocaust took place, and with every passing day feel less and less sorry that it did, when Jew survivors are operating as a wolf pack to steal my property."
He is a lunatic, a criminal, and he has nothing rational or true to add to this debate on the issues, or on the subject of the past (which I thought Palin and McCain said they did not want to talk about)
if any charecter issue is true it would come up way way before october surpise month.. if no we have a serious problem with our whole vettign process.
Hey GOP I have an october surprise that might even win it for ya.. tell us how your going to do things differntly than bush economically.. now that woudl be a surprise.. if hannity actually uncovered an economic plan of mccains that didnt look like it was written by bush.
EXACTLY, Joules.... where's the beef? McCain didn't need a secret, he had everyone believing his mythology about being a hero, and a maverick-reformer (never mind the fact that he is no reformer in reality, people bought it) ALL he had to DO was just as Joules said: A PLAN...not a different plan every day, not a different attack every day, not a chaotic campaign with no direction. He just had to not blow it. So far, not so good, Senator McCain.
Why has no one brought up the fact that John McCain endorsed George Wallace's son, George III? George III is connected to the CCC (a white supremacist group). Check him out on Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Wallace_Jr. & http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Wallace). I came across it accidentally because I'm too young to know who George Wallace is and I was researching him. I'm sure there are other articles about it.
I've been watching a lot of Fox News lately. Comedy Central has never been this funny. America's source for "fair and balanced" news has been nothing but anti-Obama rhetoric lately as McCain's numbers wash down the @!$%#ter. They've dropped all semblance of being unbiased outside of their promos demanding the contrary.
What I expect from Hannity are the same refried and debunked arguements we've seen the Fox crowd parrot all over Newsvine ad nauseum. Anything to keep people from thinking about how badly the Republicans have cluster@!$%#ed everything they touched over the past eight years...
If I found out some truly terrible things about Obama from a reliable news source, i.e. not Fox News and especially not Hannity; it would make a difference. But infortunately, Fox has ruined their reputation as anything fair and balanced and shouldn't even legally be able to use the word News in their name anymore.
Well, let's be realistic. It's a "Hannity Expose" -- hardly any credibility there. My hope is that the Democratics sue him Hannity should he so much as allude to an untruth or misconception. If he brings up Ayers...for heaven's sake, I'm old enough to have dated an SDSer. The only way I, in my war protesting days, would have even known Barack Obama would have been if I was hired to babysit him. Get real.
I'd be more apt to pay attention to something bad about Obama if it were from another news source, not Fox News and especially not Sean Hannity. I've seen some of his interviews before and he is a jerk. Unlike what some conservatives believe, Obama supporters are not a bunch of brainless zombies. If there was some awful truth about Barack Obama out there then I personally would act accordingly and not vote for him. But, there would have to be actual physical proof, not just lies and innuendo. There has been an extreme lack of it so far, so my mind and vote are unchanged.
boots11: I remember when I was a kid i used to buy "The Weekly World News" for laughs (it is like the "Star" on crack with "Satan Ate My Alien Baby" stories and "Hungarian Town Picks Dog as Dogcatcher") But there was a fake right-wing rant column called "My America, by Ed Anger" Hannity's America sounds like that column.
April very well said ,and what you said was logical to. You are like a breath of fresh air
Thanks Boots and Renard. I feel the love!! *no sarcasm at all *
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